There are corollaries in other states. So and so they so they do get pretty involved. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. I mean it wasn't your idea. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting.
Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. And you know all that. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. Now again I don't know that there's anything to that. No doubt in my mind it was. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. Sam Evans-Brown: So I just had two thoughts which is that we hear a lot of these stories and all of us here have heard these stories. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Mike you're on the air. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. So one thing I'll add we're talking about natural dispensers but talking with the conservation officer in the 1980s they recall going to a residence telling a person you can live here but your mountain lion can't. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HD PR fine Peter Biello and today we're talking with folks who can tell us about the mysterious elusive mountain line and whether or not it is actually here in New Hampshire. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Absolutely. So try to take photographs if you see something like this. Its distinctive featurethe one that sets it apart from other North American wild catsis its tail, which is thick and often as long as its body. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. N.H. Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. The supervisor that hired me in the game division in October of 1978 passed on to me this whole big folder of mountain lion information and sightings going back probably a couple decades. So and so the idea that they can follow up on every individual sighting is just crazy right. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. Part II. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff. Have you heard stories do you have questions about the mountain line. Mountain Lions are a mythical creature in New Hampshire with strong feelings on both sides of the question: are there Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. Okay. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species.
Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. Think you've seen a mountain lion? Let's talk to Bob in Laconia Bob. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. So what a neat experience. From: Boomerdog in OK 08-Oct-07 Caller: Hi. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat.
So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. And those and that's how you can go from a story that Pat says I have nothing to say about that to a story that you know could be the first verified sighting in over 100 years. So now what's going on. So do they. Peter Biello: Oh okay. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. But no proof was offered. But if you were to get Western dispersing mountain lions just would just sort of expanding into New Hampshire. By Eric Orff. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. Patrick Tate: Yes.
Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread OK. That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. So. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about.
Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department Patrick Tate: I don't believe it is. The American Lion The Saber tooth Tiger and this was the one that survived. Is this kind of a typical story. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. The Eastern mountain lion is extinct in the eastern United States and Canada, but in 2011, a . As I tried to get a picture of it so there was it was definitely we looked up all the pictures and it was definitely not a bobcat or anything else being it looked just like a mountain lion. I mean so what what is the practical change that it would bring to New Hampshire if any. And there are thousands of mountain lions killed every year legally through hunting, and there have been untold tens of thousands of mountain lions killed by hunters over the last hundred years, says Mark Elbroch, the Puma Program Director for Panthera, a global wild cat conservation organization, So even the folks who live with mountain lions still have a fancy and see something thats not there to me thats incredible.. Sam. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. "Of those three to five reports,. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. Give today. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. So Michael follows with the question. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. Seems reasonable! It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified.
NH Wildlife News and Info | NH Wildlife As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. We are the second most-forested state in the country, and those forests can be impenetrable snarls (part of why the Northeast is notoriously a difficult place to hunt deer), and while there are people in a lot of those woods, because the cats have been absent for a few generations now, most of those people dont know what a cougar scrape or latrine look and smell like. But having read a bit of information about his cougar there are a darker subspecies. 1957. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. We'll be right back. A 140-pound male mountain lion was hit by a car and killed in 2011 in Milford, Connecticut. They get a lot of media attention but compared to the the amount of times that a mountain lion could attack a person but doesn't because they don't typically view us as prey. Or years or so. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. Let us know your story and share your photos!
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting By Elysia Rodriguez Published August 11, 2015 A southern New Hampshire neighborhood believes a mountain lion is roaming the woods near their homes.
Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part I Caller: I got home to my wife that a gene that you should have seen the cat. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. List of Mountains in New Hampshire is a general list of mountains in New Hampshire, with elevation.This list includes many mountains in the White Mountains range that covers about a quarter of the state, as well as mountains outside of that range.. Part II. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. 44-H Links. nh.gov | privacy policy | accessibility policy
The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion.
And a lot of people around the county airport have seen a lot of pilots coming in said they saw huge. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. 19 Peter Biello: Hmm. Rick van de Poll: Yes. Because I mean as we've heard in the past 10 minutes like there's there's some disagreement or at least some some vagueness about what an actual mountain lion should appear like in the wild assuming we can even get close enough. Since 1917, Lions clubs have offered people the opportunity to give something back to their communities. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. for some excitement.
Squam Lake: Home of mountain lions - Concord Monitor It's not a skinny rope like tail like a housecat. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. Mountain lion or cat running across. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. Caller: So I've been telling this story for five years or so and very few people believe me. No I saw a camel. Pelosi story here we go. One was in Shelton. If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. Can you tell us about that story. Chartered 1973; Member of District 44-H; .
Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department It was really muscular looking cat I mean is that like a side angle to me. So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. Just. So they're not afraid of humans and they'll show up like a regular housecat. Peter Biello: Thank you for sharing that. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. Author of The last woman in the forest on Saturday July 13th at 7 p.m. at Warner town hall Warner historical dawg.
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