There is, without a doubt, an element of longing in the 12th. Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. His sun scorpio falls into my fourth house in my natal chart and mine ,cancer, falls into his 8th. I have 12th house with my partner, but also many Saturn and Pluto Aspects. His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27. Whatever I told you would not have a context. Part of Fortune in 12th House - astrolibrary.org They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Very exquisitely put. The 12th house really gives you an opportunity to see behind the veil in such a powerful and beautiful way, to understand not only our existence in this lifetime, but our collective reason and the inner workings of the universe itself and the karmic bonds that we have formed with soul family that have traveled this journey with us for many many lifetimes. what can we do here? She says that she has been uncertain about her attraction to me from the beginning and is just really confused because she does love me. Black Moon Lilith in the Twelfth House - Gifts of Shadow This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Am i trapping my self? I am Sun in Aries, Asc in Leo and Moon in Aquarius, and he is Sun in Leo, Asc in Gemini and Moon in Leo. I feel like I never want tk part from this man. What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? I feel ok about it but dont want to attach to it. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. (Were married 16 years, and now we are old!) Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! RUN ? Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. Thank You so much for Your answer! Lilith in the 12th house - meaning explained | Zodiac Story However, humans are imperfect, and complete faith is hard to keep up all of the time. Loving and letting go, as well as maturing your love into a transcendant form of love where you are able to love so deeply that you give it the potential to annihilate you, yet you learn to let go and allow the natural changes in the state of our being has been a reoccurring theme of my life. Sun conjunct Neptune is a very difficult thing to live with in a composite chart. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. What you are fascinated by is your own longing to acknowledge and feel this power. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? But yes, the karmic and telepathic feelings are all there. Pemo Theodore - Unravelling the Mysteries of Love through the Composite I know that there is a purpose regarding this relationship, but i cant find it Our physical connection was addicting. Looking forward to taking more classes with you in the future. Watch out for substance abuse and addictions. Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. I read once if someones pluto is attached to his own north node that would mean if the person puts anything between himself and god he will loose it, because that is what Pluto teaches. By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. Struggling against our own unconscious is not an easy thing Whitelotus. You cant really know how an aspect is going to manifest without looking at the whole chart, but it is true that conjunctions from the 12th house side are very complex. This is okay, as long as we learn from those mistakes and adjust our steps. Lilith in Synastry - Astrology Anonymous Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. The 12th house is the house of the hidden, the subconscious, spirituality, karma, and as the last house, it governs endings. I need all the help to understand I can get. This compo Pisces Lilith in house 12 falls on the exact degree of my natal Waldemath H58 , and she also falls on his natal antivertex. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. They are the lilith wearing an "eve mask". Well, his descendant point, and his ascendant ruler both conjunct my natal Lilith in my12 th house, orb2. Lilith (M) 5 58' Leo . Composite Houses: The First Quadrant - The Inner Wheel cheers:). Its part of me. Im always attracted to those types of relationships 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. I am sufficiently haunted. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. We have the ultimate intimacy side by side with the knowledge of ultimate separateness. Then we hurt each other. etc. I cant really comment without seeing the charts. They think no one cares whether they are present or absent. And now we come to the house that causes more furrowed brows than any other. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. or is it irrelevant ? hello, nice article Dawn. So much uncertainty and confusion!! I really appreciate your take on the 12th house; it definitely resonates as true, from my experience. (Or so we believe, those of us who deal in astrology.) It also works the other way. Hi WhitelotusI use both the Midpoint and the Davison charts in synastry. Entering through my dreams, plenty of astral seduction going on out there in the ethers. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. thank you for your insight, thank you !!! We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. a strong karmic tie is indicated in the 12th house, or in the other water houses 4,8. And I learned a lot too. Composite Saturn is in the 1st. Jupiter in 1st house, Uranus in the 11th to bracket the party. Venus is the planet of love which makes him lovable by his likable behavior and persuasive way of talking. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. In Our composite chart Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron in the 12 house. Also, I would think that the answer to your issues is not in the composite, but in your natal comparison. I cant make a decision of whether to stay or leave without more clarity it feels like we arent done learning what we need to learn together, but staying together in this state where she doesnt desire me is agony. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. What if the composite chart has two strong stelliums: one is made up of the outer planets in the 12th, the other Sun/Mercy/Venus/Juno in the 10th (and moon and mars are in the 8th). In contrast, couples who come together to create something for the collective often have the appropriate planets in the composite 12th, there for all to see. The composite with the Great Unrequired Impossible love of my life , shows Sun conjunct Neptune and SN , in Scorpio VII . I think that your article is quite amazing, but for those of us who are making these relationships work for us I wish you would have given some cases in which it can work. Thank you in advance. All this seems to confirm your analyses of the other composite houses, as well. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Or ? The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. I don know what to do. (You can have this without the 12th of course, but the 12th is inclined to it.) You dont want, on the whole, a composite Mars in the 12th square to Neptune, unless you are missionaries or you plan to open up a swimming pool installation company. I found so many answers and maybe some dissapointments as well :/. Thank you for your insight. Composite The relationship is deep and beautiful and in periods hard for us to be with each other. Everywords pounding in me. Jupiter Rx in the 7th in Leo. we activate each others 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th houses also. this is honestly so beautiful to read. By looking your article I realized that our composite chart is too difficult to try a relationship but when I examine our natal charts, there are many matchings as well. Learning to become unattached to outcome is a Neptunian theme in general. Its more complex than just the composite positions. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. Lilith in 11th House, Black Moon Lilith In Eleventh House, Lilith in I would need a full synastry to really answer your question. . Indicators for a New Relationship in the Solar Return Chart We go down a lot of wrong alleyways. Emotional Suppression. This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. P.S. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. Its a bit like getting knocked off your feet by a powerful waveyou and your partner are going to have to swim in the tide for a while, and deal with whatever watery beasties swim your way. Mars is involved too, which would indicate that passion, anger and aggression can be triggered by the darker, more unconscious feelings that emerged when the . Lilith in 12th House Composite, Composite Lilith in 12th House You may find it challenging to express devotion and love for one another if Composite Lilith is in the 12th house. Most of my relationships are like that . Through the sixth house, you must learn to function in the world efficiently and take up the calling to serve Humanity. Lilith in the 12th House Meaning, Natal Birth Chart, Lilith Astrology And I read from Stephen Arroyo that it is so important to see the traditional rulers of the signs , for example in Aquarius is more important to see Saturn than Uranus. And I read from Stephen Arroyo that it is so important to see the traditional rulers of the signs , for example in Aquarius is more important to see Saturn than Uranus. But thank you for helping me face reality. (Note that Jupiter is the natural co-ruler of the 12th, so it will behave in a Pisces-like manner, here.) Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. Sometimes learning from the mistakes IS the path. I thought I had become delusional, making things up in my head. His sun, mercury and chiron is in the 12 house in his natal chart. Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. Thank you for this article. He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! Most of it is illusions I know.. This is where our own shadow meets the shadow of the collective. Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. This resonates with me. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. The Vertex and Anti-Vertex in Synastry - Astrology Anonymous The twelfth house is associated with hidden emotions, and Lilith's influence adds an extra layer of complexity to this placement. I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). Composite, Davison Chart . Together we share a Mars 12th. Whether the energy between them manifests positively or negatively has to do with aspects to Pluto in both charts and aspects with the North Node rulers. MUCH APPRICIATED- i am forever greatful for your insights. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. Hi Daw So sad! Its bad enough that we have difficulties with the 12th house when it involves the natal chart, but it often is downright cruel when were trying to negotiate its slippery slopes in a composite. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. I think this is SO true . Hey Dawn! Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) In my natal I have mars and mercury in 12th house Gemini. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. Dear Dawn, We fall, and find the world. I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa.